, the 1974 budget act, that requires congress by law to pass a budget? what's the enforcement of that? well, there's going to be enforcement after today. and the enforcement is you're not going to get paid like most of the american people do when you dornt do your job. >> right. salary would say go into escrow until the chamber does pass a budget. questions about constitutionality about that though. what do you make of them? >> well, look, we wouldn't be passing it if we didn't think it was constitutional, and the fact of the matter is if the house of representatives passes this with a majority instructing the treasury to withhold our pay if we don't pass a budget, we believe that's constitutional, as does the senate. if you vote with the majority vote, you can withhold our pay. look, what are we talking about if we hit the debt limit? we're not going to pay military personnel. we're not going to pay all those other things we're contractually obligated to do, the same thing with our own pay. if we can't start with ourselves, how can we threaten anyone el